Talk:First Italo-Senussi War
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Is it a senussi victory
[edit]@R Prazeres the sources conclude a major losses from the italian and senussi advancement even surrounding Tripoli as we see they recognized and were pushed in ww1 they were forced to recognize the senussi as independent state as this would cause the second italo senussi war Jamalie7 (talk) 14:11, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
- @R Prazeres Jamalie7 (talk) 14:12, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
- This is WP:OR, as was previously indicated when it was added by another account and removed ([1]). R Prazeres (talk) 18:15, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- @R Prazeres i mean maybe the other person also put what happened i mean i put two source ! and they both recognize Italy force by senussi and tribes rebels to recognize the senussi order as independent it really isn't that much if the tribes rebelled and Italy forced to fight senussi again in the second war and also the Tripolitanian Republic Jamalie7 (talk) 18:24, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- They don't, and it's your responsibility to convince editors otherwise and to build consensus, which you haven't done, so stop repeating this addition to the article. R Prazeres (talk) 18:32, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- @R Prazeres wait wait you mean that my writing isn't convincing? or do you mean my sources don't say that? Jamalie7 (talk) 18:35, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- I suppose I mean both, but more importantly, you should read Wikipedia:No original research and make sure you understand it completely. You should also read Wikipedia:Reliable sources, since you also keep citing websites whose reliability is not established, which is even more of a problem if you're using these to support a disputed point. Citing published academic sources that clearly state the same point would make the proposed content acceptable; extrapolating your own interpretation, while citing random websites that don't support your interpretation, is not. R Prazeres (talk) 18:46, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- @R Prazeres ..... go read the source now Jamalie7 (talk) 18:58, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- Stop pinging other editors multiple times in a row; we can already see when a talk page has been updated, and we'll read it when we have time and respond if needed. The only time it makes sense to ping someone is if they're not already participating in a discussion or if you think they're likely to miss your response for some other reason. In this case, I have already responded, and you haven't presented any new evidence or given any indication that you better understand Wikipedia policy, so I see nothing else to add. R Prazeres (talk) 19:03, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- @R Prazeres what do you mean by new evidence exactly? okay how is the first italo senussi war observed as and Italy victory which doesn't make sense as they recognized both Tripoli Republic and senussi and lost fezzan ?! is still don't understand why is it considered a senussi victory Jamalie7 (talk) 19:56, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- @R Prazeres i meant why is it considered Italian victory Jamalie7 (talk) 19:59, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- Stop pinging other editors multiple times in a row; we can already see when a talk page has been updated, and we'll read it when we have time and respond if needed. The only time it makes sense to ping someone is if they're not already participating in a discussion or if you think they're likely to miss your response for some other reason. In this case, I have already responded, and you haven't presented any new evidence or given any indication that you better understand Wikipedia policy, so I see nothing else to add. R Prazeres (talk) 19:03, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- @R Prazeres ..... go read the source now Jamalie7 (talk) 18:58, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- I suppose I mean both, but more importantly, you should read Wikipedia:No original research and make sure you understand it completely. You should also read Wikipedia:Reliable sources, since you also keep citing websites whose reliability is not established, which is even more of a problem if you're using these to support a disputed point. Citing published academic sources that clearly state the same point would make the proposed content acceptable; extrapolating your own interpretation, while citing random websites that don't support your interpretation, is not. R Prazeres (talk) 18:46, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- @R Prazeres wait wait you mean that my writing isn't convincing? or do you mean my sources don't say that? Jamalie7 (talk) 18:35, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- They don't, and it's your responsibility to convince editors otherwise and to build consensus, which you haven't done, so stop repeating this addition to the article. R Prazeres (talk) 18:32, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- @R Prazeres i mean maybe the other person also put what happened i mean i put two source ! and they both recognize Italy force by senussi and tribes rebels to recognize the senussi order as independent it really isn't that much if the tribes rebelled and Italy forced to fight senussi again in the second war and also the Tripolitanian Republic Jamalie7 (talk) 18:24, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
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